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My Journey to Desteni – NEW FORUM LAUNCH

We have launched a New Introduction to Desteni Forum for all to participate on. This is the introduction that I have placed on the forum for myself. There are some quite interesting introductions/stories being shared by desteni members sharing how they got to desteni.

Here is the Link to the New Forum So come Join in the Discussions; Enjoy: http://desteni.co.za/intro-forum/

My name is Andrew Gable. When I look at “how I got to desteni” I usually pinpoint this journey to have began about 9 months previous to coming across my first Desteni video on youtube (approx 4 years ago) which was how I was introduced to desteni. So 9 months before this, I saw the movie “The Secret” this opened up what I thought to be very fascinating ‘principles’ that I had not ever articulated to myself in this way before or really ever considered. These ‘principles’ centred around the point of “how we create our reality” and also opened up the point of “positive thinking” and “law of attraction” and that kind of thing. I had before this, was more focused on Practical application and in a way had found this to be quite a secret in itself, where it was more simply common sense and made everything quite straight forward. If I want something to happen in my world, I simply must practically physically direct the necessary points so that it come forth. There was no short cuts or anything like that. I lived my life this way for…well, my whole life. Until I saw the secret that is; and my life and perspective on how to live was flipped upside down.

I thought “Could this be possible” “Could this be the Key I was looking for” “The Secret” “That would make everything just, easier.” I was quite set at that time at being a great and famous artist and was always looking for ways to make my art more effective and make art that was “real and valid” like with some real substance that was actually worth creating and in a way would be an example of how one should go about making art. So this whole “the secret” thing gave me now a fascinating dimension to now test out and possibly this would support my artistic process as well.

So I started applying the material that was being presented by channels and law of attraction gurus and spiritualists, positive thinkers, light workers, etc…and researching all the stuff I could find in relation to this point. I started living in a more “positive way” (apparently) to see if I could attract a more positive successful life where all my desires were/are fulfilled. After all, this is what “The Secret” and much of the information around this point was talking about. So even thought this entire process was somewhat “backwards” to how I lived before, there was certain aspects of it that did make sense and so to test for myself I dedicated myself to this new methodology of living quite full-on. I really wanted to see if this worked, and I was quite in a rush to become an effective human being.

This lead me to find information about channels and angel guides and stuff like this and really for the first time opened up this point in my world. I would go to the library and quietly get out books about ascension and angel guides and channelling and things like this. I kept this to myself as I thought that people would think I am crazy if I actually believed in this stuff. But I found the “information” being presented through channels to at times be quite specific and not something that one would normally find in the majority of the books in this world. At least this is what I believed based on my life experience.

I lived with my girlfriend at the time and would share what I was finding with her but she was not as interested as I was in this kind of “spiritual stuff” Though her friends were more spiritual and into the whole love and light thing which was basically what I was “getting into” So I bit off a big chuck and went for it, and started speaking about positive thinking and love, though was determined also to test out this stuff and get Actual Results so I could be satisfied that this stuff indeed works.

Nothing ever worked for me, and I continued to apply and research this stuff for 9 months extensively. I remember at one point I was literally doing nothing but meditating and sitting and staring at my wall because this is what the material was implying that I should do. After all, I did not want to “impose myself on the Universe or God” and so I was busy “Allowing” for all the good stuff, and my desires and so forth to “come to me” So basically I was in the process of placing the entirety of me and my self responsibility into the hands of God or the Universe or my Angel Guides or some energy beings. I saw that if I could for instance channel that this would make my life more worthy and interesting and valid.

But my life was changing during this period. I became less active in art and was kind of faced with the harsh reality of not really being as successful as I thought I would be then with art. This was a difficult pill to swallow, and in a way I was really questioning my life’s purpose. That was really the first time in my life that I started to experience a type of depression. When you Here channelled stuff for the first time, it is all about finally arriving in the right place, and you are now here to do your true work, and you have made it so far and you are special so I mean I kind of saw myself as being special already, lol, though this was not coming through in the art, otherwise I would have been getting rich by now or something. So in a way this channelled material still supported my idea of myself as being special and unique and worthy so I went right into it. Like I said, it was so backwards to how I lived my life up to that point, focusing on the more practical physical reality as the key to “getting things done” and the secret to creativity. What this new material was telling me was “I put to much emphasis on doing, and not enough on thinking and imagining”

There was one instance while I was painting where I was integrating this new approach to my life where in attempting to only allow positive feelings within me so that I would create a positive painting and in this way I could ensure that the artwork would be supportive and have some real substance to it. But I noticed one startling point. That in fact I was often angry, frustrated, and miserable. So the one cool aspect that “The Secret” did support in bringing forth is where for the first time I began to look “inward” in a way that I had not before, and notice all this different types of feelings and emotions moving around inside of me. And that for someone trying to be happy, it sure was difficult. How was it possible that I was so angry inside me and not all the time positive.

After 9 months of trying to figure this stuff out, where at that stage I had really isolated myself from people in my world and was exploring this new spiritual ethereal world that I was now finding out about I came across my first Desteni Video.

I ended up on the website asking questions about a week or two after finding the website. I remember after having watched some videos I actually sent a message “asking for help” I do not remember the exact context, but I do remember I blatantly asked for help….lol. I had never done that before in my life, let alone to a stranger on the internet that I had only gotten to know through videos.

I then proceeded the following months to keep track of the daily videos they were putting out and basically watching and studying every video and reading all the documents (extensive amounts of reading) And I also started exploring Self Forgiveness and Breathing and Writing and things like this. My Relationship of 8 years also came to a close around that time, so basically was at home allot alone, with a part-time job just researching Desteni stuff Full, On. From what I could see, there was nothing else really as valid as participating with Desteni, based on what they stood for, which is ultimately bringing forth a world that is actually a cool place for all to live and express, and putting an end to fear, and abuse and the ignorance of man.

So in a way what happened when I found desteni is my life did another “flip” and went full circle in a way, back to how I previously looked at and considered the world, from the perspective of a more direct practical application in terms of how to effectively live in this world.

After about a year of participating I was invited to go and visit the farm. A few people were already invited and I really wanted to go to but felt it was something that I would have to be invited to go and so I never asked straight forward if I could go but waited patiently until I was invited. I was very “pleased” ie: An instant inner smile that didn’t stop for days – lol. And so I went to the farm to learn more about these principles and basically how to be more effective in applying myself in relation to what was being presented on the website.

Why do I stand for Equal Money and World Equality.

Initially I did not fully understand the words spoken in the same way that I do now. But in truth it was the simple aspects of Desteni that enabled me to know within myself immediately that I would stand with this group and that I agreed absolutely with everything being said; basically, where do I sign up! Points such as self honesty, and not lying, and how people do not really express themselves and that everybody was fake. And showing how we as human beings are actually experiencing ourselves inside. I loved it because the way everything was broken down so extensively was fantasitic. Desteni really ripped apart everything and exposed the deception and lies of this world and human beings. Basically showing how everything was lie. Not just by saying “its a lie” and that was that, but actually explaining how it worked so that I could in fact see for myself in the words that were being spoken, like as I read and watch the videos, I actually have realizations like “oh shit – thats so true” or “fuck – I never noticed that before” and so I started to explore myself in relation to what was being presented. Eventually after some while I began to understand some of the principles that were being presented, like the principle of “What is Best for ALL” where initially it was like “the entire presentation” in a way it was not only the message that was being spoken through the portal, but what was being implied in the words and just the whole thing in how it was being presented but not necessarily being spoken. Like reading between the lines. I mean fuck, the implication of a portal being able to have any point in existence come through and communicate, from rocks to other beings, to animals. This in a strange way, was my proof. I could see that this was an “Honest Expression” and that the communication had so much “self presence” I could not get over this point, I was fascinated by it. And would sit there thinking. I want that! I wanted to be as confident as the beings coming through the portal and communicating. They did not appear to be self conscious at all. They were just expressing themselves and there as a certain innocence to this and this was my proof. Proof that what ever it was that they were communicating about was real, and thus I will take it upon myself to investigate what is being said. So yes I did understand what was being spoken, but it was also how it was being spoken that in a way validated for me. An expression that was not self-conscious.

What you understand to be “Heaven on Earth”

Heaven on Earth is up to us. It is a point which we as humanity create and are creating in this very moment and have always been creating for ourselves as the world we live in, as our environment. But we have created a mess of this world because of who we are inside of ourselves which ultimately will be exactly what we create. Thus we end up with starvation, with war, with poverty, rape, murder, animal abuse, due to, not “some outside force guiding and directing us” but due to the fact that we are within ourselves, quite ignorant, cruel, greedy, egotistical and self interested.

So to create Heaven on Earth is actually quite simplistic. We simply must change who we are, to beings that truly care, that support life, that stand always within the starting point of what is best for all. If ALL beings on earth, truly stand within the starting point of what is best for all, then the outflow of our participation here on earth will result in a world and environment of what is best for all. And that would be fucking cool to see how that would be.

So Heaven on Earth is not some pie in the sky concept of creating a utopia of angels and gods floating around on clouds like what you see in movies or pictures. It is simply a practical reality that we create, structure, build here on earth as earth where we create a system/world that is as “Heaven” so to speak.

The statement of “Heaven on Earth” assist as a statement to bring forth the point of us actually being able to create this earth into Heaven. I mean most of understand what “Heaven” is and imagine that if one ended up in heaven that they would finally be at peace, and fulfilled and content and all that stuff. Well the point is that we practically create that HERE for ourselves. I mean why not Create ALL of Existence Everywhere into Heaven, so that no matter where one is, one is living in a Heaven. Thus, We begin Here where we stand, in creating Heaven on Earth. I mean obviously our current money system in no way reflect heaven. The fact that millions are dying in starvation on this planet indicate that we are not in heaven. Or at least a very fucked up one. The point is to be able to Roam Free on this planet, and no matter where one goes, one is still in Heaven. Thus we must start with the basics that are not yet accounted for; like make sure each one on the planet as the basics such as food, water, shelter, etc. And that it is unacceptable that some would live in massive houses with tennis courts and endless food and others live in Huts and just enough food so that they do not die. It is quite plain to see that this is not fair for everyone.

Thus ALL must have access to this heaven. Thus Heaven on earth is a Directive Point for us to begin creating for ourselves. It is like we have lost our way as Humanity and thus require some sign posts to get us pointed back in the right direction so that we are actually living and expressing ourselves of LIFE. So Heaven on Earth is a practical directive and is a point we create here on earth, just the same that we have created our current world/system. We do it practically, brick by brick, breath by breath. If we allow greed to direct our decisions and self interest, what do you think we will end up with. Thus we must also transform ourselves as we have been living a long time in our current system of abuse and thus have accepted it as the only way to be and who we are. We literally must transform our nature where we take Self Responsibility for ourselves and no more accept and allow ourselves to abuse and live in self interest.

The only think stopping us from creating heaven on earth is ourselves. Because we have never created it. Because we have believed we are not capable of it. But I see that we are able to create and express ourselves in ways we are not yet aware of, though we will get to that once the basic foundation of heaven on earth is in place. That being the common sense points that all beings should have access to food, shelter, education, and the basic developmental points required for the creation of effective human beings. This is Now being proposed by Desteni as the Equal Money System which is a Money System that Provide for ALL beings on Earth so that ALL can live in abundance. It is a Money System that we as humanity must decide if we want to go that route or not. Where we either go the route of the equal money system where ALL beings within an equal money system will live the lifestyles of millionaires and have all the necessities of life provided, and we can thus take on the practical process of creating our own heaven and continue existing here on earth as Equals and Begins that actually respect LIFE, or we can continue as we are going now with wars and abuse and likely end up destroying ourselves so that humans no longer exist on earth.

Obviously I stand in Support of an Equal Money System and World Equality. We fucked up and we must get back to square one and start over again with a system that take into consideration ALL Life equally so that we do not perpetuate a world/system leave millions neglected. But rather create a world/ system of equality that take into consideration as the starting point, ALL beings Equally. and thus in its functionality is able to Support ALL Beings Equally.




Writing Yourself To Freedom – How this has Supported Me.

Since I started participating with Desteni, I have written extensively. This began initially on the forums where I would ask questions and communicate with those on the forums. It was there on the forums where I started to develop my writing ability.

My specialty was certainly not writing, though I enjoyed writing and before desteni would also write in a journal as I found the process of writing to be quite creative similar to how doing art work is.

So eventually the point of “Writing Yourself to Freedom” was introduced and it was likely around this time as well that we started opening up blogs and blogging about our experiences.

I remember being amazed as I would write about my life as I never did this before where I would simply write about my past and my experience and also just explore various different ways of writing and even simply pushing myself to blog about what I was experiencing in any given moment. Through this I started to develop the ability to investigate myself and explore myself in writing. Yes I had been busy doing this already but with the point of “Writing Yourself to Freedom” and in general the focus on writing with Desteni, I began to expand this point for myself and enjoyed the experience of doing so.

I became more effective in writing through writing myself to freedom than I did in 4 years of college – And this I found to be quite fascinating. Of course my history of writing supported me in what I was now doing with writing and participating with Desteni, but I actually started to experience myself expanding in my writing and even become better at spelling and more free and effective in my writing for the first time in a long time. One of the central points I see as to why my writing application in participation with Desteni was effective and supportive and expansive, is because “Writing Yourself to Freedom”  is/was not so regimented and controlled like you find in college or university where you ‘must’ follow the rules and make the careful correct arguments about a selected topic. This is cool also, though what I found is that with Desteni it was like all the shackles where let off, and the point was simple. WRITE! It was not about being perfect or correct and this allowed me to let go of self judgement in relation to my writing and just let the words flow. There was not, “this is what you are supposed to do, or have to do”, though there Were many examples of writing to take as a guideline if you required.

I mean writing with Desteni and “Writing Yourself to Freedom” was/is more flowing where I did not have to try to make everything perfect and correct but that I could just write and express myself and it was much more free flowing. Strangely enough, the structure and grammer and spelling and things like this eventually just started to develop, though still much work to do here on this point for myself to become effective with the specifics of writing and the proper way of writing which is simply just another aspect and point to develop, and not “the only point” being considered acceptable which is what I found in school.

So there is not only one way to “Write Yourself to Freedom” it really encompass everything. At least that is how I categorize the “Writing Yourself to Freedom” point. Is that it is basically “Everything” we are doing with Desteni, particularly because desteni is very much internet based so even learning to link effectively and do vlogs and tagging and descriptions for videos and chatting and forums and answering e-mails and ratings – All this is “Writing Yourself to Freedom” in a way as it is all tools which develop one effectively so that we become effective in the necessary points which eventually will be essential in the bringing forth of the Equal Money System which is in one way an ultimate point of Actual Freedom for all and then when the Equal Money System is Implemented we will have practically Written Ourselves to Freedom.

So those are just a few points related to my experience of writing myself freedom with Desteni. I write nearly everyday. It is rare that there is a day that I do not write. Sometimes on paper with a pen, sometimes on the computer. Sometimes a blog, or an insight, or a question, or self forgiveness, or reporting on world events, or an e-mail, or observations, anything and all things.

This point has even assisted me in becoming more effective in my daily life where I used to experience myself as limited in my writing where now I see that writing is no more holding me back like how I previously experienced myself in relation to it but has become a point that I am more confident in. Even though I do see still lots of room for improvement and development, I have much more trust in my ability to write as a point which is now to-my-advantage than my disadvantage, and this has been another cool aspect of the “Writing Yourself to Freedom” point with Desteni. That when I steady my hand getting ready to jot down some notes or take a phone message for someone, or for that matter even text my boss, or co-workers about work related stuff that I am confident in my ability and now actually Enjoy these scenarios instead of dreading them or trying to avoid them like before. Now I actually even look for these moments/opportunities as I see I am much more effective in my written communication than before and it has now become a point which make my participation in this world more effective and stronger. Thus I would recommend to everyone to give “Writing Yourself To Freedom” a shot.

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